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adjourn the 112th congress without providing assistance to the victims of superstorm sandy. i am joined today, mr. speaker, by many of my colleagues from the jurisdictions that -- whose people received the most damaging blow. though my district did not sustain the extreme damage that those in new york, new jersey, and connecticut did, the president declared several maryland counties eligible for federal assistance from this storm. but it was minor, and my citizens are not in dire circumstances. but the citizens of some who we'll hear from today are in that condition. those counties joined hundreds in the 1,000-mile diameter of this storm, the largest geographicically in the history --geographically in the history of the atlantic hurricanes. now at best the speaker said that sandy's victims will need to wait until the next congress to receive assistance. wait. they say to millions who are in pain and in distress. we should not be waiting, mr. speaker. we should be voting this very morning, which i tell you, mr. speaker, i expected to happen from my discussions with the majority leader. a
not be a bar -- a partisan political issue. the day the sandy hit, i was with many people. >> of is just about to touch on that. fires burned homes with their democrats for republicans. the climate system does not care. hopefully, what we can do as scientists, is checked the risks and then the location details. but that is a whole different ball game. >> my name is carol stone. do you think the mayan calendar this year will have any effect? and what is the effect of the population in the world -- a billion on this issue of carbon -- >> violation? >> that -- there is a number of factors. when you look at local government in emissions. if there are more people on the planet burning carbon for energy, we will be adding more carbon to the atmosphere. on the other hand, people who are living in a western-style exist then use a lot more energy than people in the developing world. one of the terms in the product of terms from which we deduce future carbon emissions is global population. we tend to believe the global population will stabilize with 10 billion people by the middle of the century because
of $5,000. >> the senate approved a $60 billion relief package to victims of hurricane sandy. chuck schumer talks about what this means to residents of these dates -- states who are impacted. this is about 15 minutes. >> thank you for coming. the senators are elated with the open discussion and allowing of amendments. most importantly the strong bipartisan support for a bill that would give much needed relief from a storm sandy. we are urging the house to put this bill on the floor quickly and allow a vote. we're asking speaker gaynor to do just that. just as it would be unconscionable for the house to leave without voting on it this booklet if -- on this fiscal cliff, it would be unconscionable to be without voting on sandy. we got 12 votes from the republican. it are three democrats that were here that were not here we would have 64 votes. that shows how important this bill was. it gives an impetus to the bill in says this bill has bipartisan support not only in the senate but in the house. do not ignore the needs of new yorkers and others. we have a desperate situation. we have b
an update on the hurricane sandy relief bill making its way through congress. "washington journal" is next. >> nobody will get 100% of what they want. let's make sure middle-class families and the american economy and the world economy are not adversely impacted because people cannot do their jobs. host: the headline in this morning's "washington post" -- president obama and senate leaders were on the verge of an agreement that would let taxes rise on the wealthiest households while protecting the vast majority of americans from tax hikes set to hit in january. welcome to the saturday edition of "and the washington journal." for the first 45 minutes of the program we are going to be talking about senate negotiating a fiscal clifts deal, what has been going on on that half of the capital. see what they are talking about and how things are going. we want to get your input and your part of the conversation. you can reach out to us on twitter. facebook, facebook.com/cspan. and you can send us an e-mail. this is more from the article, the lead story in "the washington post." they ride, the deve
. i am sure will see more as a result of the devastation of hurricane sandy. last we forget before tomorrow that we need to respond to that storm, as all this responded to the other cascatastrophes over the past 15 years. we should not have exceptions, particularly for the states that are donor states. if you want to get into nickels and dimes, let's get into nickels and dimes. we want everybody to step up to the plate. we have been able to help families in need by extending the earned income-tax credit to 500,000 new jersey taxpayers earning an -- who will earn an average of $2,000 more because of the program. we have also held 460,000 new jersey families take advantage of the child tax credit. many of you, regardless of which they you come from, your constituents have taken advantage of that great program. almost 400,000 have been able to use the education tax credits. lest we forget we have done all -- on the alternative minimum tax. the chairman will tell you how many times the alternative minimum tax comes up, and yet we did nothing year-to-year. in just one county in my distr
were here. i'd like to begin with hurricane sandy. you are a teacher at columbia, you live in manhattan, where were you when sandy was approaching and when sandy hit new york? >> i was on our farm in kintnersville, pennsylvania, where we ended up losing power for better part of the week, and four big trees blown over, the railings blown off our deck and windows blown out of the barn. so even in pennsylvania, which is separated from the atlantic ocean by new jersey, we still -- >> thanks, new jersey. >> new jersey didn't do much to buffer it. but that's where i was. and we -- you know, the lights went out and we heard these noises on the second floor as the -- as these railings were getting blown out. it was a -- a -- little, i don't know, just an interesting experience. >> your first -- first biggest storm like that, you got other storms was this bigger than -- >> i think this was the biggest one that i was in. even though i'm from western iowa, where we would get these tornado warnings all the time and have to go to the basement, but we never got hit by a tornado. so i think this was t
represent districts that are impacted by hurricane sandy, came to the floor of the house expressing their anger after getting word that the house republican leadership wasn't planning to take up any supplemental spending measure. helping those affected by the storm in october. the senate did approve a $60 billion measure on friday. new jersey governor chris christi also expressed his frustration, speaking from the governor's office in trenton this afternoon, he just wrapped up a press conference, and here's a quick look at what he had to say. >> new jersey and new york are among the most generous states in the nation to our fellow states. we vote for disaster relief for other states in need. we are donor states. spending much more -- sending much more to washington, d.c., than we get back in federal spending. despite this history of unbridled generosity, in our hour of desperate need, we have been left waiting for help six times longer than the victims of katrina, with no end in sight. americans are tired of the political partisanship of this congress which plays one upsmanship ahea
[applause] sandy. new york? to place it in a modern context, we have to turn to proxy data like coral and ice to piece together the puzzle of how the climate buried in the distant past. it showed it was relatively warm. it was about a thousand years ago. recently that exceeded anything we have seen. it was featured in the summary for policy makers in 2001. when it became an icon, those who find the science inconvenient saw the need to try to discredit this graph. they saw discrediting me as a way to do that. some have been attacked for the work they have done. i was also bill of five. my book tells the story of what it is like to be a scientist and find yourself in voluntary and accidental public figure. i was put in the limelight in limelight. [laughter] stick metaphor -- >> yes. that, if we as scientists are talking to the right people. reflag that we would not tell you but for fear that you might >> you are relatively new todid you know what you're getting a career in atmospheric change? having studied under steven the public scrutiny. 98%. the backlash. >> what happened? there was an incr
of new jersey. i'm sure we'll see more as a result of the devastation of hurricane sandy, least we forget before tomorrow that we need to respond to that storm as all of us responded to the other catastrophes over the past 10 to 15 years. we should not have exceptions. particularly from those states who are donor states. if you want to get into nichols and dimes -- ni -- nichols and dimes, then let's get into. it we want everybody to step up to the plate. we've been able to help families in need by extending the earned income tax credit to $563 -- 563,000 new jersey taxpayers who earn an average of -- will earn an average of $2,169 more because of the program. we have also helped 460,000 new jersey families take advantage of the child tax credit, many of you, rarledfuls which state you come from -- regardless of which state you come exr, -- from, your constituents have taken advantage of that program. and almost 400,000 have been able to use the education tax credits. least we forget what we've done on the alternative minimum tax. the chairman will tell you, of the ways and means committe
to peace that together potentially with the unusual trajectory that sandy took that was not part of the social impact. >> which talked-about the pine bark beetle. catherine, as a canadian, how does this debate affect canada or other neighboring countries? question i would love to be able to say that things are very different in canada, but i can you -- cannot. there are definitely more people. you can have all the goodwill in the world. but if you deny do anything about it, it does not produce anywhere ahead. climate change brings up issues that are in the american psyche, things like taxation, government control, and people thinking back to 1976 when you hear words like that. so i think there is a very different culture in canada, working together, more of a communal ideas. so i believe we have less of schools to overcome where independents is something that is ingrained since we were born. >> there is significant resistance here in the u.s., but also elsewhere. let's talk about some of the personal attacks. in your book, you wrote to strides in newton and his e- mails had been
just saw with the sandy bill. >> if you are asking whether or not the thing we did get 60 votes for a standing order. >> you want to get to 60. between hopeful that the two caucuses, there will be 60 votes for the standing order. >> does this mean that you and perhaps the democrats are more ambitious option by the junior colleagues. >> the number of us are very deeply troubled by the idea that we produce something in violation to the rules to change the rules. the senate is a continuing body. i will not try to characterize how many are deeply troubled by the idea of the nuclear option. this has been -- never been used to change the rules. >> when the republicans were in a majority, then there was the judges. i point out with all due respect to our new york colleagues in the senate, some of them have ever been in the majority and some of them have never been in the minority which sometimes dictates behavior which when the issue is on the other foot. >> senator reid has concerned about -- is it any precaution to keep non germain amendments of the bills? >> the senate allows for no
-life coverage of hurricane sandy. it is everywhere we need to be, to paraphrase some advertisement or other. it is a great, wonderful new world. the big difference is that you as the news consumer have to do the work they did not have to do before. you have to choose your pension plan, your healthcare plan, paper or plastic. you have everything thrown in your lap, and maybe most important is the information you choose to consume. you are what you eat. if you eat nothing but chocolate pudding your entire life, then you can venture out there and very your diet. it is all there. there are so many times when i have spoken in public forums and people will say, why are the media not covering x? how did you find out about that? it was on page 6, but they thought it should be on page one. the media you consume are not reflecting your priorities. they are run by people. if you go straight to google news, you can have an algorithm doing that search for you. i think you just have to swallow hard, do a lot, and realize this is all up to you now. i am not startling for the world that was at all. >> that
the congress without voting on the hurricane sandy relief package. the 112 congress ends thursday at noon. >> on this vote the boats are 257. the motion is [video clip] >> the motion is therefore on the table. host: last night the u.s. house passed a deal to avert the so called "fiscal cliff". good morning and welcome to "washington journal" this wednesday, january 2, 2013. we would like to hear your thoughts on a bill that passed both houses of congress. here are the numbers to call -- you can also find us online. send us a tweet. or join the conversation on facebook. you can also e-mail us. the "washington times has this headline -- and in the washington post -- we would like to hear what you think about this bill. we will be digging into it more, going over some of the details. if to give us some perspective is pete, a staff writer with the the hill newspaper. thanks for being with us. guest: hi. host: they talk about the house republicans balked at first. what was the sticking point? guest: you used to just have to keep taxes low. but with the debt creeping up more and more, it is inc
not be any worry about paying for sandy, unemployment, paying for three wars. there would not be anything to worry about if the republican was in office. they want to spend every dime they can. host: jackie from georgia, thank you for the call. this is from our twitter page. t's go to the jump page -- let's go to the jump page for a story in "the washington post." point.nd one othoer poier here's more from mcconnell. [video clip] >> we took that vote back on july 25. it did not originate in the house. it has no chance of becoming law. that is what i said back on july 25. we allow that vote and i said we knew it did not pass constitutional muster and that democrats would proceed to a revenue bill that originated in the house as the constitution requires if they were serious and as i called on them to do last week. the so-called senate bill is no more than a glorified sense of the senate revolution. let's put that talking point aside. host: mitch mcconnell -- or is a story from politico.com, "why they will not go over the cliff." "they see an advantage in negotiating with republicans that w
action. will have to go through the rules committee on the sandy spending bill and on the fiscal cliff deal. there is a lot of procedural stuff that has to happen, even before we get to the floor. >> stephen dinan, when did you come into work? have you been there all night? >> i got home for about six hours. it has been a lot of long days. last year, i spent years in a hotel -- new years in a hotel. this year i spent it with my reporter friends. not where i anticipated being. >> politics editor for the washington times. i hope we can check in with you later this evening if we need to. >> anytime. host: we conducted that interview a few hours ago. back to our live coverage, a live shot of the u.s. capitol. you can see the light, and that means that the house is still in session and they are in recess of the to the call of the chair. the senate has gone out of session. lisa tweets, she is a reporter -- hope tomorrow will go well. so the senate is active session. they are not going to be around if the house has to do anything. they will not be in session. they will be back tomorrow, their
a >> friday, the senate approved a $60 billion aid package for hurricane sandy believes that now heads the house. they also approved a five-year extension of fisa, the foreign intelligence surveillance act, which allows the government to conduct surveillance on foreign targets without individual court orders. that bill heads to the president was expected to sign it. as for the congressional leaders, they met with the white house. afterwards, the president told reporters that senate majority praetor -- senate majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell are continuing to try to come to a agreement. if they did not, the president has asked senator reid to introduce a basic package for an up or down vote. they will continue legislative business sunday. the house live at 2:00 p.m. sunday, with bullets as early as 6:00 p.m. eastern. the senate is in at 1:00 p.m. eastern, live on c-span2. >> also today on capitol hill, senator carl levin and john mccain of for their ideas for bypassing filibuster's to take up legislation, a counterproposal to another plan that would have to
. another, a $60 billion release package for areas affected by hurricane sandy. later today, the senate will swear in brian schatz to replace daniel inouye, who passed away last week. the house returns at 2:00 p.m. eastern. no legislative work is expected. we have an update on fiscal cliff negotiations this morning on "washington journal." guest: this is a recession between christmas and new year's. i do not know. maybe they should finish their work. you will see some push in the next few days to get a small deal done. viewers are fan of the process. anything that gets done needs to be done quickly before new year's to be signed into law. today is the 27. and so you have a few days left for lawmakers to make a deal. the president's should land at some point. there is a 5 hour time difference. they have to figure out something. it seems likely will go over the cliff. it has been looking like that before the holiday, but certainly now, particularly if you remember for congress broke for the christmas break, speaker raynor was not able to get the backup plan through his caucus,
the emotional logic. and with sandy you can't warg the storm. you know? the storm will come an it will mash your house. even if -- even if you're ann coulter, it will smash your house. i'm sorry. so we have to really understand that this is more of about internalizing science and making the science become a part of the cultural vocabulary. the thing about this huge crowd of misinformation is that essentially people are very naive and the arts can help make and catalyze more of an emotional discussion because the flurms already speak. we've had record level droughts. we've had record level fire storms. of course now storms. colorado, texas, the list goes on of places that have been hammered. and you know, you have to be an absolute fool or somebody like george fwoush not process that. but you still -- it's increbled. people -- you still have to point out. your house is on fire. and they're like really? you know, anyway, that's my take on it as a downtown d.j. >> let's try get one short question from the gentleman. i promise. this will be the last question and the last answer on the left. >> thank
believes is an irrational alternative. we have many of our fellow citizens battered by sandy, one of the largest storms to hit the northeast ever. the senate is now considering a foreign intelligence surveillance act, legislation to keep our country safe and secure. we have doctors who are worrying about whether they will be reimbursed for their medical expenses they delivered to senior citizens. we have an alternative minimum tax that will expire december 31, resulting in a tax increase to many of our citizens. tax extenders that have not been extended. a jobs bill that the president has asked for that has not been considered, much less passed. mr. speaker, we ought to be here working. addressing these challenges. everywhere that you and i go -- what are you doing with the fiscal cliff? i hope you are working on the fiscal cliff. mr. speaker, lamentably and must tell them we are not working. we are not here. we're not addressing the challenges i have just mentioned. mr. speaker, i would hope that the speaker of the house would call us back immediately to address these challenges.
in which i have served, and i have been here since 1981. the senate tomorrow will consider the sandy supplemental legislation. hopefully they will pass that tomorrow or by saturday. certainly, the house of representatives needs to address that supplemental to give relief to those that were savaged by sandy in the worst storm that has hit the northeast perhaps in history. the violence against women act passed senate overwhelmingly, something that we could work on today. the farm bill expires on december 31. milk prices will spike substantially if that bill is left to expire. mr. cantor indicated that would be addressed before we left here at the end of the 112th congress. that is some six days, a week off, four days until december 31, obviously. the foreign intelligence surveillance act, to continue making this country safe and secure and empower our people to protect us from those who would harm us, that bill is being considered on the senate today on the floor. the senate is here working. the house is not. we had a pro-forma session -- a session without substance or solutions. posta
that will give much needed relief from the storm sandy. we'll talk about that more in a minute. we are urging the house to put this bill on the floor quickly. we're asking mr. boehner to do that. it would unconscienable without voting on sandy. and the strong bipartisan support -- we got 12 votes from the republicans. the fact that three democrats that couldn't be here were here. we could have had 64 votes. we still got more than 60 even with those three absences shows how important this bill was, the strong waurn vote gives an impetus to the bill and says to speaker boehner, this bill has bipartisan support not only in the senate but we know in the house. please move it. do not ignore the needs of new yorkers, new jerseyites and others who have suffered. we have a desperate situation still in new york. we have billions and billions of dollars in damage. we have homeowners waiting, watching to see if this bill would pass so that they could begin to think of getting help to rebuild their homes. we have small business owners, watching, waiting to see if this bill will pass, to see if they can g
. -- sandy. one of the country's worst storms in history to have damaged the northeast so badly. i'm hopeful we will be able to move on both of these issues and we will have members on both sides who will perhaps not agree, but hopefully we will have members on both sides who will agree and we can act as the american people expect us to do so. >> mr. van hollen and the incoming vice chair. >> i will be brief. the difference between a divided government than dysfunctional government is the willingness to compromise. we saw that in the senate as leader pelosi and whip hoyer have said, it means looking at an agreement and balance, whether it helps move the country forward. we are hopeful that republicans in the house will do what republicans and democrats did in the senate and weigh all of the equity here and decide at the end of the day that not everyone gets 100% of what they want. democracy means a willingness to come together for the good of the country. that is what a compromise is about, especially in the era of divided government. our members are taking a look at the bill. we would just
superstorm sandy swept across the east coast. 24 u.s. states were in some way affected by sandy. the storm killed at least 131 people in eight states. hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses were damaged or destroyed. the unprecedented disaster caused billions of dollars in loss and economic disruption. just two weeks after hurricane katrina hit the gulf coast, this congress approved more than $62 billion in federal aid to help the devastated area get back on its feet. after hurricanes ike and gustav hit in 2008, a supplemental proacheses bill passed this congress overwhelmingly. all of these aid packages were approved by strong bipartisan majorities in both chambers. the results were obvious and the speed imperative. we need to pass it. nothing has changed. that is what we did for others. that's what we need to do to help this devastated area. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the the gentlewoman from ohio rise? ms. kaptur: to address the house for one minute. revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. kaptur: t
wanted to ask you quickly. he mentioned a hurricane sandy a couple of times. what sort of impact does this have? >> i do not think i can overstate. i think people saw an opening to talk about this issue that had been swept under the rug. neither the president's nor romney talked about climate change suddenly people began to talk about the issue. mayor bloomberg is on climate change. i think the storm that prolongs the rally is affecting our nation's crocked. they do not change everything. they do open up a conversation from which we can begin to make the changes we need to make. >> we will come back to issue around that. the last set of predictions was the head of epa. prior to that the 50th governor of the state of new jersey. this has more powers in the state and id any other governor. it was very important. now she shares the state pension rate coalition. >> thank you very much. making predictions about 2013 is a dicey proposition. the chance of getting anything right are getting more difficult. i will say that you have a department of energy calling for a 22% in trees. that is yes
could not do it without [inaudible] sandy atoms of florida, still young enough to continue her fight for nasa. -- sandy adams of florida, still young enough to continue her fight for nasa. he made the mistake of opening up questions, and the way the russians ask questions, they make a 50 minute speech, but after the speech this said, if you love us so much, why do you still have all those guns pointed towards us. dan and i were way back away from them. there was a real between us. they cannot hear what i said to him. i said, tell the s.o.b. i don't trust him. he said they would run both of us out there. his son is a very fine young man, did a wonderful job as vice chairman of this committee. we will miss the young man. how do you lose a guy like jeff cravaack? very knowledgeable, fought for everything that was right. he served with me on -- i believe we served together on the transportation committee. is lynn here yet? she is not here. brad miller of north carolina. i have learned something from him, several things. he goes back to one of the better law practices in north carolina. a
. lawmakers are working on the foreign intelligence surveillance bill and also emerged to funding for sandy recovery efforts. the house and senate standing by to consider any fiscal cliff update. we had an update earlier from a reporter covering the issue. host: let's begin with david lightman. white house. the best sense of what you think the dynamics will be inside the room at the 3:00 p.m. meeting. guest: it wouldn't shock me if we're talking 72 hours from now. the deadline is 11:59 on the 31st. we have seen this on and on. there are five people that know what is going and they are talking. host: let's walk through the scenarios that we can expect. the meeting is at the white house. democrats and republicans. this is the first time they have met since the election. guest: november 16 was the only time they met. it is good news they are talking. are they going to keep talking? will they say, "we will see everybody tomorrow." they would keep talking. what is going to happen on the floors of the house and senate. the senate needs to extend the tax rates a year and amended and that can be do
for sandy on the east pork inhere's a lot of that. call your delegates. my question to you, in regard to what i've heard on president obama in regard to social security is trying to incorporate changes cpi -- chained cpi. a person would pay $1,200 more in one year and over. 30 years, $28,000. could you go in depth on that for me? guest: there are different ways of computing the consumer price index. one of those is to change how much we saved for food and shelter and so forth for the proportions of the previous year as opposed to a base year. that gives you a somewhat lower rate of inflation. economists would argue that is more realistic and a fairer way to index and the government benefits. i have a problem with that. as an economist, i'm interested in perfection of measurement. as a guide u.s. to operate in washington, i am also concerned with equity. older folks really have a different basket of goods than and people. when was the last time grandma and grandpa went out and bought a suite of bedroom furniture. young folks do that. where is older folks spend much more in health care.
is a relief package for areas affected by hurricane sandy. a vote is plan for 5:30 eastern on at least one of those measures. the agenda depends on the status of the fiscal cliff talks. live coverage of the house here on c-span and the senate on c- span2. >> if we turn away from the needs of others, we align ourselves with those forces which are bringing about this suffering. >> the white house is a bully pulpit and you ought to take advantage of it. >> obesity in this country is nothing short of a public health crisis. >> i think i've just had little antennas that point up and told me when somebody had their own agenda. >> so much influence in that office. it would be just a shame to waste it. >> i think they serve as a window on the past to what was going on with american women. >> she becomes the chief confidante. she is really in a way the only one in the world he can trust. >> many of the women who were first ladies, they were writers. a lot of them were writers, journalists. they wrote books. >> they are in many cases quite frankly more interesting as human beings than their husbands
is going to try to finish work on a sandy disaster aid supplemental bill which they have been trying to get done for weeks. they are hoping to finish that today and also trying to work on a foreign intelligence surveillance act authorization extension. there's enough on the floor to keep them busy. the question is whether they will have something to vote on may be on christmas eve. on sunday joe lieberman indicated we would all be working new year's eve. we will see that happens. host: merideth shiner, thanks for your time. we appreciate the update on the fiscal cliff. here is "politico" -- a lot of similar headlines in other publications this morning. we want to hear from business owners on the fiscal cliff and if it is affecting your plans for 2013. you can see the numbers on the screen. business owners only. small or large businesses. from the hill newspaper -- that's from the hill newspaper this morning. finally, from "politico" -- our first call this morning, from business owners only, about your views on the fiscal cliff, comes from jim in hot springs national park, arkansas. what kin
from the area, he said hurricane sandy relief needs to be an important -- an urgent program. >> the most obvious problem is the flood program, it will be in trouble if they don't get money by friday. they'll pick up the rest of the package sometime january 15. >> why didn't they schedule a vote before the end of the 112th congress? >> it's a great question. it sounds like they thought they would have a hard time getting through the fiscal cliff, that that would be enough to ask your members -- their members to do and qupted -- expected to go this yesterday. it was odd to see a bill come out and wait for hours, there's a lot going on behind the scenes. >> you say there's a lot going forward, can you elaborate? >> the most dire need is addressing the flood program. they will give that the money, it sounds like they'll give maybe around the request money president obama has requested this esame money in the senate bill, the same money we saw in chairman rodgers slimmed down, peared down, narrow initial response bill. that $9 billion that the fema flood program needs. they'll co
was not about the numbers at all, it is about the emotional logic. sandy, you cannot argue with a storm. it will come and it will smash your house. if it is ann coulter, it will smash her house, sorry. the problem with the right-wing agenda with this huge cloud of disinformation is that essentially people are very naive. the art will help catalyzed an emotional discussion. the numbers are already speaking. we have had record level drops, firestorms, now storms. -- record level droughts, firestorms, now storms. you would have to be an absolute fool or somebody like george bush cannot process that. it is incredible. you still have to point out -- your house is on fire. really? anyway, that is my take on it as a downtown dj. >> let's get one very brief question here. the last question and answer, on the left. >> thank you. part of what you said about the gift-giving economy, an anthropologist wrote a book about the economy and also wrote another book that touches on the sort of things that came up with occupied oakland -- with occupy oakland. going from an active to a reactive standpoint.
's above the emotional logic. with sandy, you cannot argue with the storm. the strong will, and it will smash your house. even if you are ann coulter. we have to understand this is more about internalizing the science and making the science become part of the cultural vocabulary. the problem with the right-wing, a big cloud of disinformation is people are very naive and the arts can help catalyze a more emotional discussion. the numbers spar speaking already. we have ted record level drops and firestorms -- we have had record level droughts and firestorms. you would have to be in an absolute fool or someone like george bush cannot process that. it's incredible. it is still have to point out hi, your losses on fire. that's my take on it. >> one more question, on the left. >> thank you. part of what you said about the gift giving economy, there was a book on that. and there's another book " the ethnography." with social movements around the world in the coming year, do you see it going more towards reaction and then fizzling out or accelerating the move from creative to a rea
agriculture economy." we go to california next, a democratic line, sandy, go ahead. caller: i think the republicans ought to realize it is time they stop playing politics and started governing the nation. they have not done that for over two years. there is nothing to negotiate. obama has laid down the terms. he won over 50% of the vote. the democratic candidates in both houses one over 50% of the people voting. when are the republicans going to deal in reality and joined the main geordie -- join the majority of the american people and start governing this great nation of ours? host: that is a look at the capitol. we expect the house back in as soon as 20 minutes. the senate also should not be out much longer. we are waiting for possible comments from majority leader harry reid and other senators on where things stand on the fiscal cliff negotiations. a proposal was submitted to the democrats last night from senator mcconnell's office. aline on our independent line from tennessee. you are on the air. caller: i like to ask the people governing the senate and congress and everyone els
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